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- From: worc0223@sable.ox.ac.uk (Benjamin Hutchings)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
- Subject: Fraud by WTS/CES/etc (was Re: DOn't order from BETTER CONCEPTS!!!)
- Date: 21 Feb 1996 13:52:54 GMT
- Organization: Oxford University, England
- Message-ID: <4gf83m$jeu@news.ox.ac.uk>
- References: <4f8ra4$nk2@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> <9602080121.AA000kr@jabba.demon.co.uk> <4gaevj$hse@vulture.dmem.strath.ac.uk>
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- In article <4gaevj$hse@vulture.dmem.strath.ac.uk>,
- Neil Brendan Clark <nbc@vulture.dmem.strath.ac.uk> wrote:
- >Robert Hazelby <robert@jabba.demon.co.uk> wrote:
- >>
- >>I had troubles like this when I ordered an internal HD for my Amiga from
- >>an (ex) English company by the name of "WTS ELECTRONICS".
- >
- >Indeed. These cunts ripped me off for a monitor, 200 quid worth. I must have
- >spent a quarter of that in phone calls - it always took hours to get through,
- >and when I finally managed someone was always "out to lunch". I ended up
- >ranting to some dim witted fuckwit of a secretary whose excuses were as poor
- >as her conversational skills.
- >
- >I was going to take them to court over this, but my lawyer stated that the
- >costs of doing so could easily approach the amount I'd lost, with no
- >guarantee of success. In the end, I'd heard that they'd been raided by
- >the Fraud Squad and decided to write the whole thing down to experience.
-
- They (well, their other operation "Computer Express Supplies") ripped me off
- #139 for a CD-ROM drive. I ordered an A570 which they said they had "in stock"
- (unlike the other places I tried - this was December 1994). After many months,
- I ended up going to their shop in St Alban's (the same address as mail orders)
- to find out what was going on and hopefully to confront the people handling
- the mail orders. However, I never got a chance to see the mail order side of
- the business. What I did find out was that there hadn't been A570s in stock
- for many months, and my order had been recorded as an IDE CD-ROM drive.
-
- Of course, I immediately wrote to complain about this but before I got any
- reply the useless CD-ROM drive arrived. It was at this point I went to my
- solicitor (well, my Dad's solicitor and friend from university actually) and
- asked him to start writing letters. This was to no avail. Recently I tried
- connecting the drive to an IDE controller in a PC. It turns out that it isn't
- even an IDE CD-ROM, but uses the old SoundBlaster interface. So this drive is
- basically useless unless I can find someone to sell it to for about #30 now.
-
- I hadn't heard anything about people going to prison, although I have been
- in contact with the Fraud Squad. It seems some people have been lucky in
- getting their money back, but as far as I can see the cost of going to court
- is generally too high to consider.
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- Ben Hutchings, student. Finger me on worc0223@sable.ox.ac.uk for various info.
- email: benjamin.hutchings@worc.ox.ac.uk WWW: http://sable.ox.ac.uk/~worc0223/
- Users of the world unite! You have nothing to lose but your Micro$oft software
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